Greg: On this episode of The Tim Faller Show, we’ll be getting another perspective on breaking down barriers. Women in the construction industry with Peyton Atchison and Solveig Haugland of Adam’s Company in Austin, Texas. Here is the Tim Faller Show.

Tim: Hey, everybody, Tim Faller here. And like I always do, I’m telling you, you know, give us some ideas. We’ve gotten some requests in, which is really great. So you can send them to me Tim at Remodelers advantage.com. Or you can also send them to Greg. Greg at Remodelers. Advantage that so it’s been one of my missions as part of this podcast to highlight all the work that’s being done.

Tim: You know, we have this like crazy. My oh, we can’t find people. We can’t find people. And there’s a lot of work being done to get people into this business. And one of the big pushes is to diversify the business, and particularly as it relates to bringing young people and women into production and not in design roles and things like that, but project managers, production managers, lean carpenters, all those kinds of things.

Tim: So we’ve brought you conversations with a lot of people that have gotten out of a certain line of work and gotten into the remodeling industry, primarily in the role of production managers. We’ve also talked with a lot of women that have been project managers as well as lead carpenters. We really try to emphasize that so that it’s not just the stereotype of women, you know, staying in office jobs.

Tim: I’ll I’ll put it that way. we’ve also had several episodes and many recently about working to bring a younger generation of people, into this business and, through things like the trade schools. And we had the one episode where a fella from, the West Coast, using habitat as a way to kind of talk with people.

Tim: It was a great episode. So a few weeks ago we had a project manager intensive at our offices in Baltimore, Maryland, and we had about 15 project managers attending from all over the country. And two of those were women from Austin, Texas, that work for the Adams Company. So these two women represent two of the demographics that are sorely missing in our remodeling world.

Tim: They are women and they’re under 30. And so, you know, each one has a little bit different journey, and each one has a little bit different style. So I thought it’d be fun to have them on the show, and maybe we can just get a little bit of an idea about maybe other companies reaching out to women like them and bringing them in.

Tim: They happened to be project managers, but they could just as easily be carpenters, lead carpenters, or other production related. folks. So, Greg, let’s go ahead and get rolling on this one.

Greg: All right. Thanks, Tim. As you mentioned, we have two amazing guests today. Peyton is a project manager at Adams Company, a woman owned and operated remodeling firm in Austin, Texas. She began her career in construction with Adams Company just two years ago. In her role, she oversees everything from estimating and ordering to scheduling and client relations. Despite entering the industry with no prior construction knowledge, Peyton has embraced the challenge and thoroughly enjoys learning every aspect of her job.

Greg: She believes that anyone can succeed in construction with the right mindset and dedication. Passionate about making the construction industry appealing to other women, Hayden emphasizes the importance of representation in the field. We also have Solveig. She is also a project manager with Adams Company in Austin, Texas. She works hard at using her design background in her role as project manager, bringing a different perspective to the work.

Greg: Take it away, Tim.

Tim: All right, so like we always do, we need a little more information about the Adams Company. So Peyton, if you can kick us off here with a little bit more about the Adams Company and then maybe a little bit about what your day looks like, a lot of people think, oh, project manager, just do all the same stuff.

Tim: But look, give us an idea what’s going on in your world there at Adams Company?

Peyton: hey, I’m Peyton, and, obviously I want to first say thank you. I appreciate you guys for inviting us on the show. There’s a lot of talent out there, so it’s really flattering to have been, chosen for an opportunity like this. so Adams company, we’re obviously, we’re smaller women owned and operated. remodeling company here in Austin.

Peyton: We work solely within the existing structure of the house. and we complete about 10 to 12 remodels a year, ranging from kitchens to baths, to whole houses. And so we again, being small, we only have five employees, including our owner. We have a designer, an operations manager. And then Sylvia and I are both project managers, slash production managers.

Peyton: I think those terms are kind of a little bit interchangeable. Yeah. And so as a project manager, we take over every step after the client has decided on floor plans and selections. So this means we build the client’s construction estimate, we pull any, necessary permitting. We do all the ordering, scheduling, meeting all the trees on the site daily.

Peyton: and then and then all of, like, your CRM, all of your customer relation management. And so, what this means is we start our days on the job sites, we’re getting our trades set up, making sure that they have scope of work and all of the materials that they need. And then we’ll head into the office and we’re writing, we’re doing all our office work, so we’re writing change orders and building estimates for other clients, ordering materials, etc. and then we try to end our days on site again, to make sure that all the work was completed and that the house is ready for the next trade, tomorrow.

Peyton: And then we write a daily job log. and then document our job site with photos. So, very busy day, plethora of activities.

Tim: Yeah, super, super busy. So just really quick if you’ve got if you do 10 or 12 jobs a year, how many jobs do you have? Peyton going on like right now that are active not not coming up or, you know, warranty but are active.

Peyton: So right now we’re actually really slow. This is a slow time for us. We have a lot of, clients who are getting cold feet, you know, for lack of better words. and so I have one project right now, that a whole kitchen that we just, we’re kind of on the back end of it, and then, but usually on average, we’ll have about 2 to 3 projects per that.

Peyton: Yeah. That we’re working on.

Tim: All right. Great. So so everybody has a story coming into this and I you and I have talked about your story, but I’d like you to tell everybody like how did you get into being a project manager? We know you have some background in design and then as you’ve been doing this job, what do you think are the most critical skills that you’ve, had to develop for this job?

Solveig: It’s a great question, Tim. well, first of all, I would also like to say thank you to both Tim and Greg for letting me and Peyton be on your podcast and also for hosting an amazing project manager Intensive.

Tim: Thank you.

Solveig: That was very valuable. while I was in a place, where I was kind of wanting to shift gears in my career, I really enjoyed designing and drafting. at the time I did, but I was looking for a new challenge. And so, when I met Debbie, she was the one to provide me with that opportunity.

Solveig: and I think that project management is very different from design, but there’s a lot of, overlapping knowledge that you’ll find in both areas. And so I think that as a designer coming in, I’m able to bring, some knowledge that may not have been known before to people that are on site constantly. so, yeah, that’s kind of how I got into this role.

Tim: So from, just from, your experience, if someone is a designer or they’re listening to this or a business owner has a designer that wants to shift years, what would be like a skill area that you say, wow, just make sure they know this before they they jump over because, like you said, they’re very different. And if we can get them started on the right foot, that might help.

Solveig: Yeah, that’s a good question. Also, I would say that, something that is very crucial is note taking. I think as anyone in this field, we keep a lot of information in our heads. But if you are wanting to make that leap into a different arena in the industry, such as going from a designer to being a project manager, you need to really be prepared to constantly be learning and learning, like 20 new things every day.

Solveig: So I just say, keep that notepad on you, so that you can retain a lot of that information.

Peyton: And I want to add, I’m sorry to, I want to add one more thing. So I’m obviously was not a designer before I started, but I think something that’s really important for designers who are now becoming project managers is, logistics. can you you know, everything’s beautiful and we want it to be beautiful. Our plans.

Peyton: We want to be beautiful. but can we build it? Is it buildable? So switching, putting your mind in those and that, you know, just switching gears and. Yeah. Yeah, I think would be super helpful.

Tim: Yeah. I was going to I was going to say for first always comment. There’s a lot of production people out there that wish their designers took better notes. So I’m thinking that, taking notes is probably a good idea across all the different, the different skills. So, Peyton, what was your route we heard in the intro that you’ve been at this for a couple of years, and then as you are pretty young in this business, what do you think has been your biggest challenge to,

Tim: Well, getting into it and and doing a great job from what we hear.

Peyton: So, I was a real estate agent before I got into construction, and I just wasn’t very fond of being a saleswoman. but I loved looking at beautiful homes. And so, I actually didn’t know that project management was a thing, and, I’m sorry. Yeah, I didn’t know that project management was a thing. so, by the way, I’m 22.

Peyton: And so when I first got into this, which was two years ago, I was 20. And so, I happened to be housesitting for a friend, and their neighbor introduced me to our owner. And I always saw myself in real estate, but I envisioned being more of, like, a house flipper than a project manager. So, being on the construction side is.

Peyton: I mean, it’s so fun every single day. There’s a there’s something different going on. and so when I first initially started, I think the hardest part for me was being able to set standards with our homeowners on what they can expect from us during construction, and then just guiding them through critical decision making, times like grout, you know what I mean?

Peyton: Those are just things that, like, I’m not a designer. I don’t have that background. and I don’t have the experience to back it up as well when I first started. And so that was the same issue in real estate. I think that’s across the board in all careers. and so, nevertheless, it’s difficult to, assuring clients when you don’t really know what to expect yourselves and so and then just learning the terminology.

Peyton: But again, both of those things are just things that come a time.

Tim: So yeah. So what skills do you think, Payton. What skills do you think you brought to the table that made it possible for you? Number one, to make the jump? In other words, you were confident you could make this jump. And number two apparently learn a skill, brand new skill. So there must have been something inherent in you.

Tim: And this is an important topic to me. For me, basically, because I want business owners to know what to look for in an individual that kind of guarantees success. In other words, what are some personality traits or some attitudes or some skills even that you brought over that you feel like really made it successful for you?

Peyton: I think people who well, first, I’m an incredibly fast learner. So, you only got to tell me one thing, you know, one time, and then I get it, and I can go from there. second, I ask a lot of questions, and I try my best not to make assumptions. the only assumption that I make is that I know nothing.

Peyton: And so, it’s just having attention to detail. makes me a really good estimator, actually, because we do fixed pricings, everything has to be thought about ahead of time. another thing is, is I think just somebody who’s very independent, like me being young, I think, you know, like, if you’re still relying on mommy and daddy to do things like that, it’s like, can I rely on you to run a job site?

Peyton: so just things like that. as well as, I think I also speak a good amount of Spanish, so a lot of, a lot of our trades speak Spanish. it helps build it bridges, bridges, the the respect boundaries.

Tim: And I’m thinking, too, that, if you were to sell, were you a licensed real estate agent? Yeah. So there’s a big one to me. Somebody who goes to that trouble at 20 years old. They’re they’re they’re pushing the boundaries a little bit. They’re not just, you know, living life. They’re they’re thinking about the future and thinking about it.

Tim: So that’s another one that I think, you know, you can put in your, in your bonnet there and say, this is, this is me. But because I would be impressed with that if I met you just and you were a real estate agent at 20, then I’m thinking like, wow, that there’s something here that goes beyond just you just wants to live a life out, you know?

Tim: So I think that’s, that’s absolutely great. So. So then let’s kind of shipped over to you with kind of the same question, you’ve got that design experience. What do you think were some skills that, you brought with you that really made this, this work for you? And also I’m thinking, like both of you have mentioned, you’re both learners.

Tim: And so I’m kind of want to dig into that a little bit. Like, how do you think you’ve learned have been able to learn so much in a really a short period of time, and, and picked up this job?

Solveig: Well, to answer that question first, I think just because there are 10 million different things going on at several different job sites every single day, that really opens up the opportunity for a large amount of learning in a short period of time, just because of how much information is kind of thrown at you. which can seem a little bit overwhelming.

Solveig: But in my mind, if I’m, you know, like I said, writing everything down, that’s information I could for back to and use on future projects. in terms of design, though, I think that there’s a lot of valuable knowledge that designers can bring to the job site and into project management. for me, at least with Adam’s company, sometimes clients are still making selections, are changing selections, in the middle of construction.

Solveig: And so I feel like I’m able to bring that sort of, knowledge and expertise to helping our clients with, particular selections. and also, I have a vast knowledge of, of code. And so I feel like when we’re trying to decide where things are going or whether it comes to like outlets or like plumbing fixtures or, I mean, especially cabinetry, I do have a history with, drafting and cabinetry specifically, a lot of standards also that, I know as well.

Tim: Yeah. That’s great.

Peyton: And so for me, I think the biggest thing that has helped me is just being able to use my trades like an encyclopedia. they know way more than I could ever know. You just there’s no way that you could possibly know everything. and so we have a term carpenter who’s really taken me under his wing. He’s been super kind enough to just be my right hand man on all of my jobs.

Peyton: During any phase, most tradesmen really want to teach people who want to learn. so when you when they show up, if you’re showing them that, hey, I want to do my job well and I want you, you know, and I’m giving you all the materials that you need to be prepared. They’re more than happy to show you anything that you want to learn.

Peyton: So again, just coming to work and being excited to learn something new and letting people train you, that’s that’s how I’ve learned everything that I know.

Greg: I like that line about the, using the trades as an encyclopedia. I used to always say to my my team, like, I’m not the expert in Hvac. I’m not the expert here. I know enough to be dangerous. But, you know, tell me really, what’s going on here. So so they what has been the hardest part of doing this job?

Greg: Maybe something you didn’t think about before you roll into it?

Solveig: I would definitely say balancing office time and job site time, because before most of my time was spent, at office time, like drafting. And so I was only going on site to take my measurements and meet with the clients, whereas now I’m on site two times a day at each project. And so when we also have to write our estimates and take care of other office duties, it’s, I wouldn’t I would say a challenge, but a good challenge to try and balance those two different areas.

Greg: Peyton, same thing for you. What’s been the hardest part of. And I know you’re a learner. I know you’ve got your hungry, but what’s been the hardest part of this job for you?

Peyton: It’s probably just the level of communication required between the homeowners and then just the importance of building relationships. So like I said before, we do a daily log serve. but that’s not enough. and so something that I really learned from, Tim and Greg while at your, your intensive project manager kind of conference was that you’re selling an experience, not just a product or service.

Peyton: And, I’m good at my job, but am I good at being friends with my homeowners? You know, like, that’s a different question. And so those are that’s something that I definitely did not think about ahead of time and, that I’m really working on actively every day to, you know, your homeowners, they want to text, they don’t want, they don’t want to just read some informal log every day.

Tim: So, yeah, I’m sitting here thinking about how many times I’ve interviewed people in the last 40 years or so, and they come in and they say, yeah, I know how to do that. I can do that. I know all about that. I know this, and I’m sitting here listening to two people who have just elevated through to where they’re doing a great job in a very short period of time.

Tim: Who are saying, you know what? I’m going to admit that I don’t know that. And it’s like, it’s almost like, hire the person who says, I don’t know. And what I want to learn versus I can do that, I can do that. I can do that and then find out later on that. And, they really can’t do that.

Tim: So, I’m really I’m really impressed with that. So let’s shift over a little bit to the gender thing. and just I’d like for each of you to comment a little bit about any challenges you felt from being a woman on site, which is a predominantly male, you know, environment. It probably helps a little bit that the owner of the company is a woman that, you know, so some people are used to working with women in your environment, but I just like to know if there’s any challenges like that.

Tim: So let’s start, Peyton, with you on this, and then we’ll go to solve it.

Peyton: The only challenge that I really have faced so far is maybe just not being taken seriously, if it very rarely happens. but I can tell when a trade is purposely not making my job a priority because of who I am. I know that they have, you know, other contractors whose superintendents are men who’ve probably been in the business for a while, so they maybe don’t give me that same level of, respect.

Peyton: Like if you say you’re going to be at this meeting at 9:00, then I expect you to be at this meeting at 9:00. and so I think right now I’m actually kind of working on finding some replacements for subs because for these subs specifically, because in my opinion, if I’m working hard to make sure that you have everything you need, then, I expect you to be able to do your job in the time that we agreed upon.

Peyton: Right. So I think that the best relationships are the ones that don’t require much babysitting. And so, that’s that’s the relationship that I strive to have with my trades. And so, yeah.

Tim: Yeah. So I’ll just comment real quickly about that. I found even as a man in a production manager role, that sometimes the old subs that we’re used to dealing with somebody else, you almost have to find your own. And once you hire them, they’re much more loyal to you. because in some cases, it has nothing to do with being a man or a woman.

Tim: But I can understand how it might be a harder challenge, as a woman. So, Yeah, great job on that. So, what about you?

Solveig: Honestly, Peyton said it beautifully. It’s it’s it’s been sort of the same experience that I’ve had as well. There. we have wonderful trades and I’ve worked with wonderful trades, but once in a while, you’ll have a trade that’s, stepping in. And as one of your regulars and, sometimes there’s one of your regulars that isn’t, you know, like she said, taking you as seriously as you would hope to be taken.

Solveig: And, so that’s been sort of the challenge I’ve navigated from time to time. but not only just trades, but sometimes home owners as well, that some home owners, well, you know, expect a, a woman to be running their project. And, that’s an interesting, relationship to navigate as well.

Tim: So I’ve heard from a couple of different people that, they feel like women connect better. And this is a huge stereotype, I know, but they connect better with the homeowners. And do you find that to be the case, having having made that comment, I’m just kind of explore that a little bit more. You feel like there’s more empathy, that they feel that or I guess I’m just kind of following up on that.

Peyton: And then I’ll let you take that one. Yeah. I’ve been working on my relationships.

Solveig: most of the clients that I’ve worked with have been very respectful, very great and personable. and I will say that once in a while, like you will have once in a while with your trades, there will be someone that is not, sort of taking this seriously and not expecting you to do, like a great job, honestly, you know, and, so I think a lot of, of, being in this industry as a woman is having to kind of prove that you can do the job and that you will get it done, and you will get it done.

Solveig: Well.

Tim: Yeah.

Greg: How about how about age? You’re both young, you know, how about age? Does that had any impact, with your relationship with either trade partners or your, clients? Things like that. Let me let you start that.

Peyton: honestly, I think it helps a lot. Like, I think just because, I’m an outside the box kind of leader in a way. And so, I, I don’t really and I try to lead without leading. If that makes sense. And so, I just kind of lead by example. And my guys really enjoy being on my job sites.

Peyton: I think honestly, being a woman and being young helps makes them want to come work for.

Solveig: You know.

Peyton: And be on our job sites. so no, I don’t I don’t know, I think, I think it’s been super helpful and I love being young and I love being in the industry. I think, especially in Austin, the building industry is very eager to get new, young blood, I guess, in game. And so, and then just then seeing how excited I am to learn, then they get excited.

Peyton: So. Yeah.

Tim: how much do you how much do you tell the client about your knowledge? I mean, it’s one thing to tell your trade. Hey, look, I’m not an expert in Hvac. You got to help me out here. But how much does your client know about how long you’ve been in the industry? And. And I guess just I think some people are afraid that clients will start doubting someone’s capacity if they haven’t been doing this for 20 years or so.

Tim: How much do you actually tell them about it? I mean, obviously you look young. You don’t look like you’ve been around for 30 years. that’s a compliment, by the way, that try. But how much do you tell them?

Peyton: Honestly, as much as they want to know, I like. I think being open is most important. Again, I’m not going to tell you that I know something if I don’t know it. I will tell you that I will find the information and I will get back to you. And people respect that a lot. Yeah. you would be surprised.

Peyton: So, don’t be afraid to say that you don’t know everything. Don’t be afraid to tell somebody that you don’t. You know that you will go and find the answer and then go and find the answer and get back to them. that’s that’s really most important. And sometimes, like, if I know I’m going to have a conversation with, with a homeowner that, I don’t, I don’t feel confident about, I’ll ask a trade to be there at that meeting with me.

Peyton: and, and I might let them take over the reins a little bit of the conversation, and then I’m writing notes in the back of my mind, remembering things so that I know for the next conversation. Yeah, I have that experience. So I just kind of let let your work ethic talk for itself. And you’ll be fine.

Tim: All right. So, Peyton, let’s stick with you for a minute here, but I’d also. So I’d like to get your, ideas on this, sticking with Peyton, primarily because I know Peyton has helped on board solve a into her role, and I. I just want to talk about onboarding, because I think that’s been a huge weakness in our world where, you know, I’ve done it.

Tim: Almost every client I’ve ever worked with, consulting has done it. Oh, boy. Glad you’re here. Take this job. So let’s talk about onboarding. And, we know the owner of Adams Company very well. At least I do. And, hopefully we don’t, you know, go down any negative roads. Yeah, but I’d like to know just how was the onboarding and what are some things that you would tell a business owner to make sure they do in terms of onboarding somebody new, particularly to the industry, but also young, that sort of thing.

Peyton: So, my onboarding, both of our onboarding has been a lot of kind of, been for yourself, you know, and that’s not a bad thing. In fact, I think it’s a good thing. I think, the best advice that I can offer to an owner is to prep your employees with the tools that they need to be able to make decisions, and then given the space to make those decisions, teach them the processes, teach them, the, the thought process and how you make decisions.

Peyton: and so, so that they can go through those processes on their own. and so I think also giving them the safety net to catch them when they fall with good informative feedback goes a long way. I was just having a conversation with somebody, and, who we were talking about how they like to consider the cost of mistakes as, like tuition for new employees.

Peyton: And, I really love that take because I think it shows that, management knows you’ll make mistakes and that’s okay. And some of the best, lessons that I’ve learned in this industry are mistakes that I’ve made once that I’ll never make again. Right. so that’s a I just that’s a really big thing.

Solveig: Yeah. I think to add on to that, it’s really important to learn how to vocalize your processes that you keep in your head so often and your, just day to day activities and routines. It’s kind of like you’re used to keeping that all inside. But once you have someone shadowing you, you really want to be able to, you know, verbalize what your processes are and how, they should be doing their job and what your expectations for them are.

Solveig: and I think shadowing has been such a huge, deal for me and has been super helpful.

Tim: Yeah. Fantastic. So, Solveig, one of the things you left out of your story about how you got into this thing is, that her, parents are folk singers, and they were on a cruise that, the owner of Adam’s company went on, and they met, and they were talking, and all of a sudden, the owner of Adam’s company is, interested in hiring Solveig.

Tim: And so they have this conversation. So other than going on a cruise, let’s do that. Let’s put it like that, because, do you have any ideas for the listenership about where they might be able to meet some people or, how to attract somebody to, this role within their company? again, focusing on women and young.

Solveig: Yeah, that’s a great question. And I will say that my hiring process has been pretty unconventional. nonetheless, I really appreciate and and grateful for the opportunity. but, for anyone that is looking to sort of pivot in their career the way I did, I think looking at designers and looking at other women and different areas in the industry, like could even be sales or estimators.

Solveig: I think that, for me, what really sparked to that interest in wanting to shift over to the construction side of things, was being on site, more often and building relationships with people that were on site, whether it was the trades or the project managers or the construction managers. it really grow. It really helped grow my curiosity on that end.

Solveig: And, it was a motivator in me, kind of switching sides. If you will. so, yeah, I say that, also, I was very intimidated starting as a project manager because I feel like design is very different, a very different world. And so, I think that, you know, before I thought, oh, I could never, you know, be on site or be managing, trades or just being around construction the way I am now.

Solveig: I think that, just overcoming that sort of fear and intimidation is really important because there really is so much opportunity, to learn new things and to just have so much more knowledge about the entire construction process.

Peyton: One more thing I think I want to throw in there is, you know, maybe even kind of like paid internships for women. again, I never knew that being a project manager was even a role. I don’t know, women don’t know that there’s work in construction that’s not physical labor. so just showing them that these opportunities exist.

Peyton: and you don’t have to be a designer to get into construction is, I think, is super important.

Solveig: That, too.

Tim: Yeah, that’s that’s really great. So I guess let me just, follow up a little bit. Peyton, from your vantage point, you came in, in real estate somehow you met Debbie, and had that conversation. But is there another, any ideas that that you have for just reaching out to women that business owners might think about, like, go here, go there, network your network there, that kind of thing.

Peyton: Other than the club on a Friday night? Yeah, yeah. Social media for sure. Our our generation is on. We’re on, you know, TikTok and Instagram all day long. those are really great ways going to high schools. I know that that’s kind of a very cliche, topic, but if you can get them before they even kind of decide what they think they want to do, I think those are really great places to start.

Tim: Yeah, yeah, that’s absolutely incredible. So we’re going to kind of kind of one things up, but I’d like each one of you to give us like a little bit of night, like, what are your goals within this industry? And what is it that you’d like? Where would you like to be? I don’t know, you can say five years, ten years, whatever it is.

Tim: and it’s perfectly okay to be a project manager for your whole life. Just. I want you to. I want to say that, but I’m just kind of interested as to how you see yourselves developing. You’re so young in the business as well as chronological. where do you see yourself going? Let’s start with Peyton, and then we’ll go to it.

Peyton: I love this question. I love this question so much. And I think about this all the time. I, my, my real estate license is still active. I want to I want to be a house flipper. I want to be a, a spec home builder. I just the bigger the houses that I can build, the better.

Peyton: you know, and so building generational wealth is really important to me. I want I’d love to get out of, you know, working the 9 to 5. just having alternative streams of income is something that I want. I also listen to a lot of podcasts on, so, being my own boss, I think is for sure where I want to be.

Peyton: and preferably not in Texas.

Tim: So preferably. Where do you have a do you have a preference?

Peyton: Oh, I don’t know. I somewhere where the weather’s nice, you know, somewhere like California. Just lower taxes. How do I.

Tim: Yeah, I.

Peyton: Think I’m, I’m still looking for that.

Tim: Like oh and and by the way, listeners out there know sheep stealing. Okay, this is not this is not, a recommendation to give Peyton a call because you need somebody. All right? I want to make sure that’s really taken.

Peyton: I’m spoken for.

Tim: All right, so all of your goals.

Solveig: Oh, man. I will say that I’m very passionate about processes. And so I would like to get to a point where I am just know the whole process of construction all the way around, all the nooks and crannies to be able to, I don’t know, help companies, help individuals, sort of refine their, business process, I suppose, things like that.

Solveig: I think I’m just very, I think that processes and, operations are very important in the success of the business, and I think that’s something that we can all improve on. So,

Tim: Yeah. And that’s certainly been something I’ve been pushing for years and years and years. And Greg’s in the process of getting started on it. just so critical. Well, this has been absolutely fantastic fun for me. You guys have been very, very enjoyable to be with. And I don’t say it for every, every podcast is one of my favorites.

Tim: And, I’m, I’m really excited to be able to get this out to everybody out there. So thank you so much for joining us.

Peyton: Thank you guys. You guys are also super awesome and you have a lot to teach. and I have a lot of episodes to catch up on. And so and we appreciate it.

Solveig: Yeah. Thank you guys so much. So grateful to be here.

Greg: Well, thank you both for joining us today on The Tim Faller Show. And thank you for representing the industry so well. We look forward to having you back on the show in the future. So, Tim, what do we learn?

Tim: Wow. Yeah, there’s just a whole lot of things. I got a whole page of notes here, so I got a scan down. I made a big deal about the learning and, my I’m very impressed, but also just the desire to learn. And, I think I made the comment about the people I’ve interviewed that, you know, seemed it or think they know everything.

Tim: And I think just the attitude of going in and willing to learn. And then then if you couple that with, something that Peyton said about, you know, let me make my own mistakes. So is kind of what she said, get give me the process for making decisions and, and let me, let me learn by doing and by.

Tim: Yeah, I’m going to make a few mistakes, but they’re part of the tuition that we all pay for, you know, getting into this, this industry. And so I like that dynamic between, you know, I love learning. But also let me get busy and learn, you know, while I work, I’m not waiting for somebody to teach me. I’m going out there and and really trying to grab hold of the knowledge.

Tim: So that was that was one of the big deals.

Greg: Yeah. I just I love both of their energy and what they’re bringing, you know, and eagerness to learn. I mean that’s one of my, you know, core values is learning and you know, the Cliftonstrengths finder says I’m a learner as well. So I really appreciate how, how they are, you know, putting that effort in and just they want to be better.

Greg: They they’re looking for excellence. And I just appreciate that so much.

Tim: You know, a lot of people know that I love to fish and I love to catch lobster. And having a really good year this year. But I often tell people I’m it’s a good thing I didn’t know you could be a commercial fisherman when I was a kid because I might have ended up in a very different world, and I have enjoyed the world I’m in.

Tim: I probably would have enjoyed that to some degree as well. But I loved Peyton’s comment, particularly about I didn’t even know. And I think this is a big challenge to all the contractors out there. Of all the people that just don’t know that what you can do in this industry, there’s stereotypes that it’s all men. And, you know, we all wear dirty clothes and we’re on the jobsite all day long and, you know, and besides that, we’re all old and grumpy.

Tim: You know, it’s just there’s these stereotypes of what construction is. And, these women are breaking those stereotypes. But the fact that she found out by accident that it’d be a project manager is sort of a, tells about our, our industry, and we need to get real active. And every time we’ve done a show about women, about bringing young people in, I’ve made this comment that contractors need to get out in the, community and talk to people, network with people, make the suggestion.

Tim: Wow. You’d probably make a good project manager. And I, I asked again, just like, what are those qualities? And again, I love the fact that Peyton, she was already a real estate agent at, you know, at 20 years old. And that would have told me, here’s someone that’s going places and that loves to learn. And so that whole, that whole thing.

Tim: So again, just maybe get out there and talking to people and making the suggestion, hey, maybe you were good at this. We had, Morgan from last construction when she was a bartender, and, and one of her regulars came in and said, I think you’d make a good project manager. Now she’s the operations manager for Left Construction.

Tim: It’s just amazing what can happen if we make those connections. And we see something in somebody, and then we say, you know what? Those skills that you have, those traits you have would make a good project manager.

Greg: And I think we should also credit Debbie Adams for taking a risk too. You know, that’s a that’s an important thing. We you know, we’ve we talked to David the Mexican Carpenter a couple of episodes ago. And you know, someone took a chance on him and, you know, I think.

Tim: Yeah.

Greg: You know, Peyton. And so they, I’m sure they’re grateful for that as well.

Tim: So, yeah, this has been absolutely fantastic.

Greg: So once again, we’d like to thank so Solveig Hoglund and Hayden Acheson of Adams Company for joining us today. And thank you for listening to another episode of The Tim Faller Show.

Tim: And remember, at the Tim Faller Show, we’re working hard to eliminate it is what it is from your vocabulary.